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misqueue ([personal profile] misqueue) wrote2012-10-27 12:01 pm
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Mumbling at myself Pt. 2


So, I've got some last little dangly threads of resolution and foreshadowing I'm trying to pull together. The boys are going to D.C. over Easter weekend, courtesy of Burt. They spend a Friday afternoon & evening with Burt, and then he has to head back to Lima, so K & B are there on their own until Monday.

I've got Burt's acceptance of Blaine into the family as a thing, also Kurt being able to see Burt as an independent entity bigger than being his father (almost like an empty-nest thing, given how Kurt has cared for his Dad, but anyway... he feels their imminent separation briefly, but doesn't dwell on it because his Dad is doing so well in D.C. and Kurt is really proud of him).

Being in a city suits Kurt; he's excited and thinking about the future again. Blaine sees the degree to which being in a city suits Kurt, and is silently sad about it because he sees how Kurt will slip away from him in New York; they have fun anyway. Blaine tries to hold onto Kurt with sex but that isn't what sex is about for Kurt so even as they're connecting with physical intimacy, they're starting to pull apart; Blaine wants to choose Kurt over the world, but Kurt won't make that (false) choice. This conflict is not addressed, though, it stays under the surface.

There's a contrast between Kurt celebrating his Dad's flourishing in Congress and Blaine's fear of Kurt's flourishing in NYC, but it's kind of subtexty too, so, IDK.

This was meant to be light fluffy sexy fun times, but I think it's going to end up a little melancholy. :S
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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2012-10-27 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Are you just thupping stuff at the wall, or do you want a wall that chatters back? Because the undercurrent of melancholy in the last few parts really struck me as an odd, but interesting choice for the wrap-up of this piece. I had...feedback half written...dammit, where's my thumb drive.....?

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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2012-10-31 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, sorry I told you I'd babble at you and then went away. I didn't realize how late it was, and then the next few days were busy.

Anyway, I had a really mixed reaction to the last part of ITWOS. On the one hand, it was lush and beautiful, and so gratifying to see Kurt so happy and confident, surrendering himself to Blaine's care. On the other -- Blaine seems oddly young and nervous, compared to Kurt. Wanting to be perfect for him; not completely confident that he is. Their communication feels ever so slightly awry. Their kitchen conversation was about Kurt holding back, and now, ironically, I get the impression that Blaine is. All of the above is flawlessly in character, IMO. I love how subtle it is; I can just see it as a reader, but it's also easy to see how Kurt misses it (or, in some places, willfully misinterprets it; boy's just a tiny bit avoidant). It's just...a darned odd note on which to end a novel.

If I may be frank, whatever possessed you to end the story before DWS? You've spent the whole back third of it foreshadowing a meltdown -- in Blaine's comments, and evasions, about his father, in the strange little thread of insecurity running through Blaine's reactions to Kurt -- and then you stopped before you delivered. I would have expected to get the DWS blowout followed by your last sex scene: Kurt intending to let Blaine fuck him, but stuff keeps getting the way and they never quite make time for it, and that feeding into everything else Blaine's getting himself hung up on (he's pulling back, he doesn't really want me, I'm not good enough for keeps...), and then DWS, boom!, and they make the time and it's gorgeous and a suitably big climax/denouement: Kurt and Blaine both, in the afterglow, feel like they've resolved something.

...And that would also handily set us up S4, because they may have tried to convince themselves in the moment that, oh, phew, it was just sex, and resolved by awesomely intimate sex...but relationships (especially long-term, long-distance ones) don't actually work that way. 'Queue Cue novel #2. :P

tl;dr: I adore what you wrote. It just feels perplexingly unlike an end.

Structural puzzlement aside, here are some other things I truly loved about this last sequence:

I thought it was interesting how much finally being penetrated wasn't a big deal for Kurt. One of the story's most powerful scenes, for me, was the conversation about Finn and Kurt's internalized homophobia -- a scene this last one was inevitably tied to. So I was expecting some kind of mirroring or reminder...and didn't get it. And then I thought about it and decided I liked that I didn't get it. It said to me that Kurt is really, truly over that old harm; he's able to do this and have it be about himself and Blaine and their love and nothing else. He's free.

Otoh, I luurved the recollection and demolition of the lilac fantasy. It was a nice way to mark the crossing over from childish fantasy to touchable reality. Also I'm amused by Blaine making sure that Kurt's fantasy of Taylor Lautner is forever obliterated, because he will never smell lilacs again without landing right back in this memory of Blaine.

Effulgent really is an ace word, and I'm sorry I giggled. ;)

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for that image of Kurt straddling Blaine's lap, sinking down on him and leaning back for a kiss, with his torso all stretched out and his quads flexed and...yeah. That's gonna last me a nice long while. Bless.

(Wanna bet we get shirtless Kurt by the end of this season? It might just be Rachel walking in while he's roaming around the apartment, but after those Hallowe'en pics....Ryan Murphy ain't stupid.)

Thanks again for writing this gorgeous story.
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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2012-11-01 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
So! Your comments, which I appreciate so much, especially the frank ones.

Oh, good, because I mean them in the best possible way. You're an amazing writer, and I'm so noisy because I'm trying to learn from you.

I should learn to write a basic long
form plot before I start breaking the rules. :S


No, no, this was way more fun! :D It's such a cool thing to think about -- why formulas work, but what problematic shit they reinforce at the same time, and how you can get around them while still creating the emotional payoff/catharsis that makes you love a story.

And, you know, this story had multiple incredible payoff moments. That Psyche scene. It's just a good question: what do you pay off where?

I did consider revising the outline to incorporate DWS in a way similar
to what you suggested, but then I thought about it more


Aaaagh, you know what? We're both right. Or both muddled. Or something. Because I agree with everything you said up there about anticlimaxes and the boys' separate arcs and healing cocks -- not to mention the whole cultural brainwashy fat-lady-sings attitude toward penetrative sex in the first place! You did subvert an obnoxious cliché in avoiding a big fight/make-up sex finale, and I'm nodding madly along with your not wanting Kurt's first time bottoming coloured by crisis. You've created a delicious dilemma, from a writer's standpoint: two characters working on two different growth arcs, plus both together working on a third. And their happy endings (well, at least happy resolved cadences before the next movement starts) aren't in sync. It's the opposite of a formulaic romance, in which everybody's stories come to fruition at once. It's a dilemma unique to fandom, being constrained by an evolving canon -- you can't just make Blaine's angst vanish; that wouldn't be right -- but, otoh, such an interesting way to learn the mechanics of original fic.

I'm not sure how I'd resolve it myself, while preserving your set of thematic entanglements (Kurt's fear of being penetrated entangled with his fear of loss, etc.). The pleasures of being the critic, not the writer.

It's also worth noting that, in isolation, any scene is going to be more interesting when it's got some tension in it. One of my all time favourite pieces of meta is [personal profile] resonant's "How to Write a Sex Scene", in which she explains that the one thing she never does (in a long piece) is have her lovers sit down, talk it out, declare their eternal love...and then have sex. Boooorrring. You always want to leave something unresolved, something -- besides an orgasm -- for them to want. Like any good advice, this is not always true, but often. But it does let me appreciate the final sex scene in ITWOS by itself. Maybe the thing to do is make his turmoil more apparent to the reader, and have Kurt misinterpret it as something else. *ponder*

I was overly preoccupied with Keat's "Ode to Psyche" and Don
Henley's "End of the Innocence" at this point in the writing.


!!! Oh, god, what a set. Both simultaneously love songs and songs of mourning, Götterdämmerung. I love it.

I've got the impression that Chris is happy
to go shirtless. (Didn't he even ask to in the bed scene in TFT?)


Hee. I don't usually follow celebrities with much interest, but Colfer as a celebrity is amazing. I've been so enthralled and entertained by his active, gleeful management of his transformation from virginal little pudding cup to...not. (Yeah, I have a vague recollection of him saying he was 'prepared' to go shirtless, for art, bless the commitment.)

<3 Safe trip.